British Snoring & Sleep Apnoea Association

Sorry I took a while replying You get the CDs via the website
http://www.singingforsnorers.com/
It's the best £38, I ever spent If you go ahead with it you have to start on CD#1 track 12 that is the tutorial which takes you through the exercises. Tracks 1 through 11 are a straight run of the exercises which you sing along with Alise and orchestral backing (once you know the tunes)!
You might be six weeks before you notice a big difference but commitment certainly pays off...Please, please give it a fair go!
To begin with, the exercises only claimed to cut down the snoring decibels, but recent hospital trials suggest that they have helped people with apnoea!
If you do go ahead you may be interested in reading someone else's experience of it

http://sleepapnoea.blogspot.com/

All the very best Ken

I have just noticed from Paul's blog that he has fallen off the wagon for a few months (singing-wise). Singing for 20 minutes a day can be a bit of a pain to fit in some days, and I am retired, and he has a full-time job, so I understand how he feels, but as he says, he has got around the problem by doing two sets of 10 minutes each!
I am really glad that he has started again...I no longer do the exercises when I am on holiday...It's a shame there are no soundproof booths around Ken

http://sleepapnoea.blogspot.com/

Thanks for your contributions. I am quite interested in alternatives to CPAP or adjunct methods that may enhance CPAP. Would appreciate any feedback on other experiences with singing or wind instruments (didgeridoo etc.) in snorers or people suffering from sleep apnoea.

Thanks for your comment, sorry it was delayed, but have been away for a while. I have done the exercises today (and most days). I, too, would love to hear some feedback from other people who have done the singing exercises. My request for another sleep test was turned down, so I continue to use my nasal dilator as well, and the netti pot sure does keep my nasal passages clear. I suppose most people would call it the "belt and braces" solution!!! Ken

I've just noticed an interview with Alise Ojay, who runs "Singing for Snorers" on a website that I have never seen before.....

http://www.snoringbegone.com/alise-ojay-interview.php

She doesn't have to persuade me Ken

Hi Ken, I'm new to the site and have been reading your story with interest,
would you say that the singing exercises have really improved your snoring? I've just started them (3 days ago) and am hoping that they improve my snoring. I've had a laup three weeks ago which my husband says has decreased the level of my snoring - but I don't know if he's just trying to placate me. I was told by the ENT specialist at harley street that my snoring was 60% soft palate, 20% tongue and 20% nasel, so had the operation (really unpleasant) and am looking for other ways to improve my overall oral toning. After doing the exercises for three months doe you still do them daily? Or just top up now and then?

I was thinking about this singing for snorers. I'm a teacher and have a really strong/loud speaking voice and often sing. Are these special exercises, because I'm not sure if would help if it were just singing/voice projection type stuff?

Hello Snoozer240...I am SO sorry, but I didn't see your and Silver Fox's postings till yesterday.that's what you get when the thread is nearly 3 years old!!!
I am really glad that you have started the course. Alise who runs it says that a good way of seeing if it is doing any good is to voluntary make the snoring noise (during the day) and try making it say in a fortnights time..It should take a little more effort to do it.
Since I have no partner, I am 64 and live on my own in a terrased (sp?)house, it is difficult to get feedback about level of snoring. My neighbours both sides have been told about the singing exercises. I go on holidays a few times a year with the same three collegues and occasionally share a twin bedroom. I have been told that my snoring was like an elephant and is now more like a kitten. However I still wear a nasal dilator as well, and use a neti pot daily.
I have contacted Alise about "maintenance" level, something she has had very little feedback on. She says it is largely trial and error. At the moment I sing CD3 three or four times a week and occasionally go back to CD2 for a couple of weeks just to vary the exercises.I don't do them when on holiday, but within an hour of getting home, I switch the computer on and out come the "strange noises"
You will probably notice some difference after a few weeks ...with me it was 5 to 6 weeks into it. As you will have noticed exercises 2 and 3 really target the soft pallet!
Anyhow, I'm so glad that you are giving it a go, and if you have a lapse at any time don't be frightened of starting again!!! All the best Ken

Hello Silver Fox
Again, apologies for not replying sooner!

Really glad that you are considering doing the singing exercises.



Let me just give you an example of working the soft pallet....it is something that I sometimes sing when I am on holiday, first ascertaining that there is no one around!!!!
...with the tip of your tongue resting at the back of your lower teeth and your mouth slightly open, sing, as loudly as your dare, to the tune of "God Save the Queen" or "La Vie en Rose"...it could be anything really....the word KUNG...it could be KONG....KING is not quite so good..........you have to make that sound (separately) to every note in the tune.don't forget to breathe in every now and again!
If you do this properly you will have the sense of the soft pallet having been worked.........this exercise is not part of the course, it is just one that I have made up!!! but it will demonstrate that ordinary singing, and ordinary singing exercises are a totally different ballgame!
Just for the record, I too have a loud voice, (being kids in a mill working family, you had to shout at the meal table!) and the last few years have sung in a few amateur concerts, a "Forties night" coming up next month!
Hope you do give "Singing for Snorers" a go, there is a link to the website nr the beginning of the thread. All the very best Ken

Hi Ken thanks for replying

I just started cd2 today - quite a lot harder than cd1 but i'm sure after a few days I will get the hang of it I find the exercises easy to fit in during the week when I am home alone for part of the day but weekends still tricky with family home -maybe when I get more confident (and improve my tone) I will just get on with them regardless
I'm in email contact with Charles Huppster in America, he still sings and tells me that there are going to be more trails but this time in America, so it will be interesting to see what happens.


Gail

sorry Ken got his name wrong its Charles Hupp (not huppster which is part of his email address)

Hi Gail

I am so glad that you are persevering with the course. If I remember rightly, I introduced two new exercises per day when I was changing from CD1 to CD2, and then the same procedure for CD2 to CD3...It does take a while to get your head round the new tunes. If you ever have a bad day, or you are rushed CD1 is better than nothing at all!
Charley did have quite a few newspaper items about him whilst he was on holiday in the U.K...this is one....I am the Ken in one of the comments!

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/arti ... article.do

thanks Ken, I tried that today, sang cd1 and a few exercises from cd2. I think that I shall do this until I get to know the new tunes.

Gail

Hi Ken, Just thought I would update you - I started cd3 today and am really proud of myself for perserving. I know its a bit of a pain doing them every day but I have got into the habit of singing when I'm washing up and seem to whip through them really quick! Though I am still snoring I have been told that I'm a lot gentler (less vibration) so I'm going to carry on with the exercises.

Gail

Gail, I'm proud of you too....It's great to get some positive feedback. Alise who runs the course will feel good about you too!!!!! She does look at this thread now and again. I am using CD2 at the moment just for a change. I find the biggest effort is just starting the exercises. The time flies once you have done the first two or three exercises. I do them whilst I am doing the washing up, like you...I also sometimes have the telly on in silent mode, or look at other things on the internet whilst singing All the best to you and even if you don't do them on holidays (like me last week in Palma) try to resume as soon as you come home..It's really worth it....Ken