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 Post subject: Re: Singing for Snorers
PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:00 am 
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Well done Jay, keep up the good work. Glad you are on the straight run...when you think about it, it is the logical way to have the C.D, you only need the tutorial the first day or two! I have just done my exercises along with a days worth of washing up :D All the best Ken


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:17 pm 
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2 weeks and counting
Still going strong, I have been doubling up my exercises to twice a day (with approval from Alise, she says the more the merrier) and just decided to look at CD2 and have substiutued the first two exercises from there. Will give it about three days then substitute a couple more and work them up gradually. I use the back room away from next door. :D Close the door and hubby closes the downstairs one. I don't think he thinks a lot of my singing voice :shock: coward!!!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:20 pm 
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Keep up the good work Jay, what with your double sessions, I wouldn't be surprised if your volume has come down earlier than usual 8) Ken


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:20 pm 
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Thanks Ken. Lets hope so. I managed all of CD2 today so going to stay with that and do CD 1 as second one. I see what you mean about Lilly Lilly on this one
WOW how are we supposed to keep up :o :lol:

Edit: Oh and I have lost 4 lbs (can't believe it) :D


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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:12 pm 
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Corporal Snorer

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Hi Ken just started CD3
First three exercises today then the rest on CD2. Hubby says he thinks it is quieter now. AND I have now lost 7 lbs in 7 weeks so I am really hoping this will get me that Kitten purr. :)


(I think I may have a problem with laying on back by early morning and chin tucking down causing a lot of it. I have woken myself a few times and think this is why so looking at trying to find a remedy. There are collars online but a bit pricey)


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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 3:48 pm 
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Hi Jay, So glad you are on the right road and good luck with CD3, which in my view is not particularly harder than CD2. For the last month I have been on CD2, I change round every so often just for a bit of variety. Track 9 is still difficult for me to keep time with, its a right tongue twister, but doing it has got to exercise the tip of the tongue!
The young lady next door was sat on the top step from the kitchen out into her garden ( I live in the middle of a row of terraced houses ) I forgot to close the kitchen window, when I was singing the other day, and I was giving exercise 7 full blast (Nimh nimh nimh...high speed and very nasal) She nearly choked on her fag........perhaps she thought I was strangling a meerkat, that's what it must have sounded like :lol: :lol: :lol:

Regarding your tendency to sleep on your back, some parts of the night.. A V pillow is well worth trying and only cost £6 or £7 at Argos...see my recent posting on this link...
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2246
Keep up the good work, all the best Ken


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:37 pm 
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Re yesterdays posting, exercise 7 should be exercise 6, after doing them four and a half years I should know better :) :o Ken


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:31 am 
I had sleep apnea for a couple of decades. When it got bad enough I had sleep studies - AHI of 40. This was 5 years ago. CPAP did not work for me. I cured my apnea with Alise Ojay's Singing for Snorers exercises. I am 86 now and still able to contribute at our local community college in our tutoring program. If you have sleep apnea, my recommendation is to use the exercises Alise Ojay created. Charley Hupp, Kingman Arizona, USA.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:05 am 
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Charley, how do you know your sleep apnoea is 'cured'? What impirical proof do you have?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:22 am 
Hi all
Just thought I would let you know about my experience with SINGING FOR SNORERS. Before I bought the CD I read all of your articles and they inspired me to give it a go ( especially yours Ken ) !
Maybe my contribution will inspire others.
It was at Christmas 2011 that I was woken by my husband very noisily storming out of the bedroom ( again ) to go and sleep in the spare room because I was snoring ( AGAIN ! )
So, as we all can these days, I spent the following day researching possible cures and reasons.
I had previously mentioned my problem to my GP who suggested the usual thing i.e. lose weight ( I had lost 21/2 stone and didn't snore before? ) I also mentioned that I could no longer sing like I used to and that my throat felt strange ( I couldn't describe it any clearer) I was tested for thyroid problems but the results were negative.
Anyway I digress....... When I came accross Alises Singing for snorers my interest was awakened and thats when I read Ken's blog.
I ordered the CD - nothing to lose - and imediately felt I had done something positive.
The CD arrived the next day and I started CD 1 straight away. Not only did I have my husband with his fingers in his ears but also 2 VERY distressed cats !! Our house is normally very quiet.
I work full time as a teacher so it became increasingly difficult to fit singing in every day but my character borders on Obsesive and I was determined to carry on. Now, I know it is not ideal but the answer came when I decided to put the CD in my car. I know I should have been standing to allow my lungs to fill to their full extent but I figured anything was better than nothing. I am in the car ALONE for half an hour a day so I switched the CD on and sang my way into work and sang my way back home again ! Now in January it was dark as I travelled in both directions, now in April .... not so, and you do have to pull some very funny faces !!
Anyway I followed each CD for a month each. It was during the first CD that my husband said that I wasn't snoring as much and every morning since, I have woken up he has still been there beside me !!
I DON'T SNORE ANYMORE !!
The CD is still in my car so I will carry on singing - It has become part of my routine. So if you are reading this, thinking shall I try it? Is it worth it? etc then YES, GO ON DO IT.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:31 pm 
Hello Everybody,

I'd just like to add that I, too, have found real relief from snoring through Alise Ojay's CD course, "Singing for Snorers." It also a LOT of fun, I find, and very clear and easy to use. I used to sound like a monster in pain at night, but my husband can confirm that the sound now is more like air whooshing. My singing voice has also really improved--and I haven't even finished the course.

One caution: you have to be prepared to sing every day, with discipline, and patiently wait for the results. I sing first thing in the morning, and so far my neighbors haven't complained.


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 Post subject: Re: Singing for Snorers
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:24 pm 
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i found a special snoring training, made by an Austrian speech-language therapist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwA6v83AS0M
comprehensive oral training, as speech language therapists do (for swalloging disorders)
http://www.schnarchen.at.gg
is he the only one (worldwide) who's offering this? Who knows more?


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:33 pm 
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But what if you snore in French like I do .... not all of us snore in Austro-Bavarian, Alemannic or German. Could you advise me of the next step to take Tron?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:26 am 
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Hi all,

I've been using Alise Ojay’s Singing for Snorers CD for three months, and have worked my way up through all three CDS. I think the exercises are cleverly graded in difficulty, as I found the exercises quite challenging to begin with, but now after finishing CD3, when I go back to the exercises on CD1 they seem easy peasy. At the end of the three months I can definitely feel a difference in my throat muscles.

I used to snore occasionally, not every night but enough for my husband to comment when it had been particularly loud. I think it was made worse by alcohol and also if I slept on my back. I’d not had any comments from him recently so I asked him if he had heard me snoring within the last month and he said no. Also my singing voice is stronger and more reliable than it was. I’ve joined a new choir and have more confidence in my voice.

I’m going to continue doing the exercises, on a maintenance level; they definitely benefit my singing voice in addition to toning my throat muscles so that I don’t snore. I miss them if I don’t do them.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:27 am 
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It is so much fun to run across others who love their Singing for Snorers.

I was diagnosed with OSA almost three years ago. I got a very nice APAP right at the start, didn't have too much trouble sleeping with it, and loved not waking myself up all night with my snoring. Unfortunately, it pushed so much air into my stomach every night that I looked like i had swallowed a balloon, was very worried about embarrassing myself gassily in public, and developed terrible reflux. I looked into surgery, but I didn't find anything with a great probable success rate.

I was searching the internet for any kind of reasonable solution when I saw Singing for Snorers mentioned. I should add that I was a little overweight and post-menopausal, so I had already read about the likelihood that the tissues in my throat were loose and collapsing as I slept. Singing just appealed to me as a cool way to tighten things up.

I pretty much gave up singing when I was 13 because I was self-conscious about my unlovely voice, but I was just desperate for sleep, so I decided I was going to be fearless in pursuing the exercises. I started in August 2010. I was very consistent in my practice for the initial period, but I had also gotten a recommendation for an dentist who specializes in helping snorers (it rains, it pours). Once I started to work with him on fitting an appliance to hold my jaw forward at night, I slacked off on the singing. Big mistake.

The appliance did help my snoring improve even further. In a follow-up sleep study the techs never even woke me to check me with a CPAP. I thought I had the solution, and I stopped singing regularly. Until the snoring started up again.

Turns out for me no one solution is enough. And, when I got back to my morning Singing for Snorers exercises on a regular schedule, I realized how much better my mood was during the day and that I felt like I had gotten something important done before I even got my clothes on.

My husband teases me about making "dolphin noises," but I can't imagine not singing. I often do two CDs a day, usually CD1 to warm up, then 2 or 3. Sometimes I do all three in a row. When I'm feeling really spunky, I'll do CD1 then CD3 twice. (Tough for me still.) I could maybe get away with less, but if I don't do at least two discs' worth, I don't get the great mood for the day. :D


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