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LAUP?

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Re: LAUP?

Post by CFC1SEAN » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:45 pm

Had the LAUP op yesterday 20/08/13, have to say that it was done by a ent specialist on the nhs, he was very good at explaining the pluses and negatives of this procedure.

I was put to sleep on my pre op assessment where a camera was put down my nose and found that I had soft palate collapse on falling to sleep and that for me LAUP would be benetficial. I was informed there is two type of snorers, those that lifestyle changes can help ie giving up smoking, diet, and exercise for weight loss and then there is those like my self whom are not overweight but have this soft palate problem that only surgery will help.

I was informed that the stats for success were very different from person to person and that there was certain negatives ie may still snore, feeling like you have a crumb stuck in your throat for months after, infection, bleeding out and being able to bring fizzy drinks up through the nose 'great party trick' and of course the pain.

I was then asked if I still wish to go ahead, for me it was a no brainer, remain a snorer for the rest of my life waking up all in my house or put up with the pain for 3-4 weeks and hopefully be lucky and get the cure, i went with the op.

I had the op, as yet the pain is no worse than a sore throat, I was given a bag full of drugs to help, swallowing is a bit awkward but with a flick of the head and a swallow at the same time things go down...lol .

To early to say if has helped me althou yesterday I slept well and my partner don't recall me snoring.. Will update as weeks go on

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Re: LAUP?

Post by Gerald » Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:34 pm

I had this operation approximately 6 weeks ago in London. I opted for this due to really noisy snoring and worrying that I was becoming hypoxic as I slept. I would wake up really tired and at times more tired than when i went to bed. Post op pain was terrible, peaked at day 7, the only solace was ice cubes, the Dicolenfic I was given didnt really work however surprisingly the paracodeine was superb.

Unfortunately now, I do feel as though I have phlegm continually in the back of my throat and swallowing is difficult at times, sometimes it feels as though and have to gulp liquid rather than drink and swallow. My voice seems to have gone down an octave also. As for the snoring, well, that has completely disappeared and I do wake up feeling as though I have had a really good restful sleep. I am glad i have had this done.
Bare with the pain if you can as it does go as quickly as it comes on.

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Re: LAUP?

Post by snoozer240 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:27 am

I had this done a few years ago - cost a lot - very traumatic and no stopping of snoring- I now have a mouthguard and use nasal dialators and sleep much better

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Re: LAUP?

Post by ihatesnore » Mon May 11, 2015 10:56 pm

I am 41 years old, female, slim and drink very occasionally.
I had LAUP about 4 weeks ago. The pain was horrible - I never had such a pain in my entire life.
I wish I had known this forum before, maybe I wouldn't have done this surgery. I am still snoring, nothing has changed so far and I kind of started to regret all the pain and money spent. Hopefully - they say can take up to 6 weeks to stop the snoring - it will work.
I am worried that since yesterday i started to have this thing in my throat like . Does anyone can tell if this will stop later?

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Re: LAUP?

Post by Sleep2Snore » Tue May 12, 2015 9:44 pm

Hi ihatesnore,
Good luck with it, it does work for some but not all.
As you have found it is very painful and I would not recommend it to anyone.
You can also be inclined to get infections in your throat afterwards and a lot of scarring so if things feel worse away and see your Gp.
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Re: LAUP?

Post by ihatesnore » Wed May 13, 2015 8:28 am

Hi sleep2snore,
I understand now why you say that. I had so much hope, I trusted the Doctor and the Private Clinic that the only thing I wanted was to have this done and finally stop this awful snore.
I cried this morning for the first time not because of pain but for disappointment, frustration. I have a work conference in few weeks and I am so ashamed to have to share the hotel room with someone.
What makes me so upset is the fact that I was completely fool and never did any reserve about it.
Now I am still snoring, angry at myself, frustrated and disappointed.

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Re: LAUP?

Post by Sleep2Snore » Fri May 15, 2015 10:43 pm

Sorry to hear you were/may have been given the wrong advice.
Trouble is a lot of the doctors do think it is the best option, especially some of the older ones.
Also a lot of private clinics give this advice and I often wonder who's interest they have at heart.
It is like a breath of fresh air when they send someone to a Sleep Clinic first.

However, it is not the end of the world, go see your Gp.
If you are tired and sleepy during the day ask to be sent for a Sleep Test.
He may send you to see someone for advice about snoring if you don't feel tired during the day.
Good luck with your next move.
Above all, don't give up. :)
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Re: LAUP?

Post by Alsacienne » Mon May 18, 2015 6:36 pm

I understand now why you say that. I had so much hope, I trusted the Doctor and the Private Clinic that the only thing I wanted was to have this done and finally stop this awful snore.
I cried this morning for the first time not because of pain but for disappointment, frustration. I have a work conference in few weeks and I am so ashamed to have to share the hotel room with someone.
What makes me so upset is the fact that I was completely fool and never did any reserve about it.
Now I am still snoring, angry at myself, frustrated and disappointed.
I think that there are many of us who will have nothing but sympathy for you. You were sold a dream, but it turned out to be a false promise. And it is no consolation to read 'we told you so' ...!!

Don't let this break you. You have learned a painful (sorry) lesson in more ways than one, but you are NOT finished with the matter. You need to go to your GP and ask for a sleep study to get exact data about what's going on at night and to have this done urgently.

We ALL know what it feels like to be mocked for snoring and the intolerance of others who cannot understand that it's happening independently of our wishes. We can't help it.

In the meantime, is it possible to book a single room in the conference hotel - the cost may be substantial but you will feel so much better in yourself not having to share, or in a cheaper hotel not too far away?

I know you feel rotten at the moment, but that's only 'at the moment' and you still have the future you want once you've been assessed correctly and started xPAP therapy. And there's a heck of a lot more time in 'the future' than 'at the moment'. You will move on, and leave this episode behind you ... and keep other folk informed as to why this LAUP procedure might not be for them ... and that will be valuable to others in itself, so good can come from your disappointment.

Do keep in touch. And all the best for a solution for the conference issue.

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Re: LAUP?

Post by Sleep2Snore » Mon May 18, 2015 9:47 pm

It can still be a bit of an embarrassment to have to share a room using a CPAP machine though at first. But once you find out how much good can come from it you won't care and it can be quite educational for others. People do manage to sleep with the machine running unless they are a very light sleeper. If the other party has a few night caps they will sleep quick enough anyway :lol:

Go see your Doctor and ask for a Sleep Study.
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Re: LAUP?

Post by John Stendall » Thu May 18, 2017 9:55 am

I had LAUP and "nose" 7 days ago at a clinic on Harley Street. At £2900 it didn't come cheap, but I had tried numerous alternatives to no avail. Mouth guards provided little respite for my partner, the same for chin straps, nose strips, nasal dilators etc. I tried CPAP, investing nearly£1000 in a machine, it stopped my snoring, however I was unable to get more than 2 hours sleep a night whilst using it. My snoring was exceptionally loud, my partner and I have to sleep in separate rooms. So we decided there were no other options and looked in to surgery.

The initial consult was professional, the surgeon said it was likely the surgery would have great results, but there were no guarantees. I had a bit of extra faith in him as he invented the procedure. The post consult booking lady was worse than useless, but we decided to proceed anyway.

We used a snoring app that records and gives information on your snoring, I would recommend this to anyone who is considering this surgery, or has issues with snoring.

The operation itself is very unpleasant, it is incredibly uncomfortable, I was gagging consistently over the 15 minutes, I could taste and smell my burning flesh, occasionally inhaling the smoke in to my lungs, this is not for the fainthearted. The surgeon and team were very professional and supportive, I have no complaints at all, it's just a horrible procedure.

The last seven days post op have been difficult too, at first the pain was bearable, I had little trouble eating. Come day 5 & 6 the pain became extreme, be prepared for this, I was not. Now I am on day 7 and the pain is quickly subsiding to bearable levels again.

I recorded my sleep for 3 nights after the op on my phone app, the first night it was reduced, then it went back to previous levels. I stopped recording as it was disheartening, Last night I set the app again, my snoring is now louder and for longer than prior to the operation, it is all rather depressing at present that after £3000 and all this pain I am currently in a worse situation than previously.

Hopefully, as the clinic stated earlier, the true results will show after several weeks, I will update my posts along the way, I know I found it very difficult to get anecdotal information when researching, so maybe this can help others when making their own decisions.

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Re: LAUP?

Post by Sleep2Snore » Thu May 18, 2017 1:05 pm

I will watch with interest. However, this sounds like so many stories I have heard already.
Good luck with it and keep us posted as to what happens. :)
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Re: LAUP?

Post by John Stendall » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:04 am

I am now almost 4 weeks post surgery, I am pleased to say the pain has now all but gone, although there are still some side effects, slightly irritable throat and runny nose, all very minor though.

Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a great deal of difference to the noise levels, certainly not enough to make any difference to my partner being able to share a room with me. The Snore Lab App shows some drop in noise levels, but nothing consistent, I am using a mouth guard and a nose strip to try and address the other snore factors, but as ever, I am snoring.

The next step we plan to take is arrange a follow up appointment after the full 6 week recovery period to assess the whole situation.

I am extremely disappointed considering the severe pain and the cost, however the surgeon was clear that he could not guarantee success. I still believe that this procedure was worth attempting, if only to be sure that it wasn't a solution for me.

I will update once I have any further news. If anyone is considering this procedure, please be aware before hand that the recovery can be incredibly painful and you will need at least 1 full week off work, probably 2. The procedure itself is incredibly unpleasant, do not underestimate that. It does seem to have worked for some though, so if you can absorb the cost and are as desperate as I am, it MAY be worth considering.

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Re: LAUP?

Post by Sleep2Snore » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:05 pm

NOT for the faint hearted then! :?
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Re: LAUP?

Post by Blackers » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:17 pm

I recently undertook the Laup procedure (nose and throat) at the Private Clinic in London. The procedure was fairly straight forward but strange. Post op I have had an exhausted feeling which probably relates to the local anaesthetic. My first night sleep was terrible due to been unable to breathe through my nose and a slight period of lightheadness.

What I have noticed is that my snoring, fairly mild before has become EPIC since the operation. My question...is this related to post surgery inflammation so will subdue as the tissue retractes and airways open more? I find it hard to believe this surgery can create greater snoring problems since I have a substantial lack of tissue left in my nose and throat!

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Re: LAUP?

Post by Sleep2Snore » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:42 pm

That amazes me, I thought it was supposed to help, not make it worse! :?
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